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Originally posted by guest:
SOS404...you're continuing to make youself look really silly with your comments. Which side of your last comment do you believe you're on...the.01% or the 99.9%? What makes you think you know so much more about the situation in Lincoln than anyone else? Because you read Huskerpedia and Rivals.com?? Like a previous poster wrote, you are not convincing anyone with your current logic that the situation in Lincoln is good. Like it or not, in the real world, other peoples perceptions and opinions DO matter. I'm going to suggest you read Dale Carnegie's best seller "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Successful people in the real world become sucessful not through deception, lies, and devicivness... but by getting a group of people with common beliefs in the boat with you, and all rowing in the same direction. Unfortunatley, it appears that the majority of the people in the state feel the boat in Lincoln is running amuck. Believe me, Steve Pederson cares IMMENSELY about the public's perception of him...and so does his boss, Harvey Perleman.

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lol im part of that .01% because I talk to people that either are a part of whats going on or know excactly whats going on 24/7...

And what you don't understand is Pederson is the boss, wether you like it or not he's the head hancho, and as long as Perlman thinks he's doing a good job (which he does) theres nothing you can say or do to change that... so he doesnt need anyone in his boat or anything, and no he doesnt care what the publics perception is, same thing went over at pitt and now 4 years later they credit him for everything going well in both Basketball and Baseball, don't go by what LJS or Nebraska media tells you, lol theyve had a grudge against SP since he called them out and ripped on the media about letting the Solich Firing out months early making it looked like he botched the whole thing

SP destroyed lifelong traditions at Pitt & left there just ahead of the boot that boosters there had aimed for his #*!$ grinning behind! If you had paid attention to the stories that came out of there when we played, you would understand the depth of contempt fans had of the way he ran, Steve Knows Best, roughshod over their program. Constructing a BUILDING is not the same as building a PROGRAM.

Shane I can guarantee you that if some of the real stories about what's going on at South Stadium got out it would severely damage this program. That leads me to believe that you might have some contacts but they may not be as informed as you think or just don't want to release any informaton that could destroy recruiting. Do you think it's a good thing to have half of the people in the state for and half against this man? As I said, don't you think it would be better for the program to find a Joe Castiglione type? Pederson talks about the state uniting but he's burned too many bridges for me to believe it will happen. By now it's clear that some people are never going to be on SP's side no matter how much he or Callahan win. Is that productive? Is that what the program needs? And in case you didn't notice, Perlman's contract is also set to expire at this time next year.

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SP destroyed lifelong traditions at Pitt & left there just ahead of the boot that boosters there had aimed for his #*!$ grinning behind! If you had paid attention to the stories that came out of there when we played, you would understand the depth of contempt fans had of the way he ran, Steve Knows Best, roughshod over their program. Constructing a BUILDING is not the same as building a PROGRAM.

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Where were Pitts bball and football team in the rankings before SP got there...

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Originally posted by HB:
Shane I can guarantee you that if some of the real stories about what's going on at South Stadium got out it would severely damage this program. That leads me to believe that you might have some contacts but they may not be as informed as you think or just don't want to release any informaton that could destroy recruiting. Do you think it's a good thing to have half of the people in the state for and half against this man? As I said, don't you think it would be better for the program to find a Joe Castiglione type? Pederson talks about the state uniting but he's burned too many bridges for me to believe it will happen. By now it's clear that some people are never going to be on SP's side no matter how much he or Callahan win. Is that productive? Is that what the program needs? And in case you didn't notice, Perlman's contract is also set to expire at this time next year.

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oh trust me i know plenty of stuff thats pretty bad but its more player related, eg. Mulkey sleeping with Richie Incognitos girlfriend (the fight in the lockerroom), Richies Crack/Cocaine problem (which he wasnt the only guy on the team with this)

If we are getting into player revolts how about the real reason Birkel left. Birkels mom badgered BC all season long and finally during a sit down meeting Birkels mom kept going on and on how Andy should be starting and BC asked Andy if he was going to be a man or was his mom going to do all of his talking at that point mom flew off the handle. People just look at tonights game and you can see we don't have the talent to compete and only Bill Callahan can deliver that type of talent for us. Do you think keeping Frank would have helped close the gap between us and USC, no hell he didn't even try to recruit Reggie Bush.

I thought Nebraska had the night off last night...looked to me like USC played OU????

I agree with Birkel's mom

Yeah...if OU played like that against Nebraska earlier this year...well, we probably STILL wouldn't have scored more than 3 points, but maybe we hold them to 20 instead of 30.

Umm...or maybe not.

I wonder if Stoops is worried about his AD firing him after that mediocre display his team put on against the #1 team in the country??????? Getting beat by thirty-something on the NATIONAL STAGE could be an indication of the slide to come! After all, Sooner fans surely don't want to return to the days of John Blake!!!!!

The bar obviously has been raised since Solich was fired, Callahan gets beat by 60 and still has a job.....for now.

Well, S0404 -- I can actually think and I know for a fact that just because NU has this awesome recruiting class doesn't mean we "will be back in no time."

Consider that, over a decade ago, Notre Dame had the top recruiting class year in and year out, and won just one national title during that time. Other years, they were simply overrated and riding the undeserved reputation heaped upon them by the Eastern media in the polls.

Signing blue-chip recruits is nice...but all it means is that there is potential for a team to improve with these superstar high school athletes once they reach college. A lot of factors can make or break those recruiting classes -- injuries, grades, attitudes, homesickness, girls, media attention, etc. -- and the next thing you know this great group of recruits turns out to be a box full of Milk Duds.

Check back in a couple of years and see where these recruits are and where this program is at. Right now, I don't believe we have seen rock bottom at Nebraska yet...5-6 may be Callahan's best year before he and Pedersen are shown the door.

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Well, S0404 -- I can actually think and I know for a fact that just because NU has this awesome recruiting class doesn't mean we "will be back in no time."

Consider that, over a decade ago, Notre Dame had the top recruiting class year in and year out, and won just one national title during that time. Other years, they were simply overrated and riding the undeserved reputation heaped upon them by the Eastern media in the polls.

Signing blue-chip recruits is nice...but all it means is that there is potential for a team to improve with these superstar high school athletes once they reach college. A lot of factors can make or break those recruiting classes -- injuries, grades, attitudes, homesickness, girls, media attention, etc. -- and the next thing you know this great group of recruits turns out to be a box full of Milk Duds.

Check back in a couple of years and see where these recruits are and where this program is at. Right now, I don't believe we have seen rock bottom at Nebraska yet...5-6 may be Callahan's best year before he and Pedersen are shown the door.

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I feel very sorry for you if this is what you believe....

Why feel sorry for someone who looks at things objectively??? Only those with closed minds should be pitied.

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Why feel sorry for someone who looks at things objectively??? Only those with closed minds should be pitied.

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someone so ignorant and blindly pessimistic to force himself to believe callahan is going to fail.... especially when that is supposedly the team he roots for needs the pity...


The one thing people forget is the college coaching game is something Callahan needed to learn also, and i really don't think he really understood it until the team had already givin up on the season...

but obviously theres nothing i can do to convince the nay sayers that Callahan is good for this program so we'll see who's in the right here in a few years lmao and trust me, im not to worried about this one

You are tough to have an intelligent debate with SO404... when someone refutes your statements with facts, you have to resort to name calling and personal attacks as your last resort. Callahan failed in Los Angeles... and if he is around long enough he will fail at NU also...the only thing relatively certain about coaching is that someday you will be fired. GO Big Red

What are you??? Like the paid for cheerleader for this bunch of overpaid underachivers???
It seems that M...F... is one of BC's fav's when it comes to colorful language. This entire group does NOT know how to relate to college players! They are a bunch of a.. chewers that have lost the respect of the team.
Callahan has never proven himself as a head coach anywhere-certainly not at the college level. The Cornhuskers don't live in lincoln anymore. And what do you mean "going to fail", they "FAILED" last season. That staff FAILED to maintain unity, (sort of like the Raiders) they failed to come up with a workable transition plan, (unlike the previous year's staff) & they failed to understand the value of the traditional walk-on program's importance, not only to the team, but, also for it's value as a lifeline to state-wide support for the program. (no scout-teamers on the field for warm-ups) This bunch FAILED miserably because they lack the understanding of the men they replaced. The Raiders were made up of veterans that needed less "coaching" than a group of 17-22 year old kids. This coach sounds more like a used car salesman than a mentor.

S0404 - feel sorry for me if you want, but the fact remains that the quality of recruiting class does not always translate into success in the W-L column.

And let's be honest - Callahan INHERITED a Super Bowl team the year after Gruden left for Tampa Bay, then watched the team implode one year after losing in the Super Bowl. One year later, he comes to Nebraska and the team goes from 10-3 to 5-6.

I've been a Husker fan all my life, even to this day. But I don't let the blind myopia you seem to be infected with keep me from calling a spade a spade. I hope Callahan can turn things around, but recent history does not make things look good.

since you dont think recruiting success translates to success on the field lets take a look

1. USC/ 02-13th 03-3rd 04-1st avg. 5.66
2. Auburn/ 02-6th 03-11th 04-21st avg. 12.33
3. Oklahoma/ 02-7th 03-4th 04-8th avg. 6.33
4. Texas/ 02-1st 03-15th 04 10th avg. 8.66


now lets find some teams with under a 15th ranked average recruiting class that wernt in the top 25

Good luck with that one.... cuz i guarentee you wont find one

One of the hallmarks of success at NU through the Bob & Tom era was the ability to DEVELOP talent. One of the reasons for Notre Dames' lack of success over the past decade was the LACK of ability of the coaches to direct great talent. This is not a group of coaches(NU) that are going to sell mom & dad on their moral character. This group's ONLY hook is the connection to the NFL. Dubious at best,that is not enough!