Rookie Registered: October 21, 2002 Posts: 194 | We need to take a step back here with this herpes scare going on. Last night the ref would not allow my 285lber to wrestle because of a scratch/bruise(had a mother look at it who is a nurse after weigh-ins and she said the same thing). He felt it was a close call and with the scare he couldn't let it go. The other coach agreed with me when we talked. I did not question the ref because it is his job. He stated with this stuff going around he could not chance it. The funny thing is before the news got ahold of this he wrestled tuesday night with the same thing and no questioning. Now we are going to have Dr. at the district weigh ins because of the scare! I hope they are dermatologists and not a general dr. What is going on? RR said it right in another post, we need to take a step back and take a deep breath. I know its better to be safe than sorry but when and where do you stop? Sorry to rant and rave but had to get this off my chest. |
World Champion Location: Wayne, America Registered: October 20, 2002 Posts: 5714 | Unfortunately, that's how it is in 21st century America -- a ton of prevention for an ounce of cure. "Energy Flows Where Attention Goes" -- James Arthur Ray |
Rookie Registered: November 07, 2005 Posts: 88 | My suggestion would be to all coaches and parents of wrestlers to check their kids and have anything that looks "funny" checked out. Then bring the documentation (on a state form) with you so the officials have the most recent medical assessment available to make a determination. We are not medical professionals but we have been charged with trying to determine "what is what". I believe districts should have medical personal to help with this but if "you " take care of it yourself then there should be no question. Good Luck All |
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Moderator Location: Good Ole USA Registered: October 24, 2002 Posts: 6303 |
Agree with everything posted here so far (except that there is no way there is a hand inside of Kermit) but... According to the latest newsletter from the NSAA found here.
That could certainly make for some interesting skin checks at weigh ins for the District or State Tournament. I can see a battle over Specialist vs General Practitioner coming. Personally, with everything I have read from Coach Allison and iowan@heart regarding how this mess got started and the medical tests that have been done since, I see no need for any more precautions than we normally take. |
Rookie Registered: March 21, 2005 Posts: 181 | Does a referee have the authority to hold out a wrestler, even if the wrestler has an NSAA form signed by a Dr.? Let's say the Dr. signed the form the previous day (within 24 hours). Coach Meyer |
Junior High Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Registered: October 23, 2002 Posts: 517 | I think the only way a wrestler with a note is held out is if Dr. on site overrules. |
Rookie Location: Columbus Registered: December 14, 2004 Posts: 84 | YES he does..ALL depends on how the form was filled out and the issues at hand.. Big Mac! |
Rookie Registered: March 21, 2005 Posts: 181 | Big Mac On the NSAA form it states, "ART. 4.... If an on-site physician is present, he/she may overrule the diagnosis of the physician signing the physician's release form for a wrestler to participate with a particular skin condition." It does not say anything about the referee being able to keep a wrestler from wrestling if all the spaces on the form are properly completed. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this issue (not to cause problems). Coach Meyer |
Junior Varsity Registered: March 24, 2005 Posts: 652 | Coach Meyer, I specifically asked this question two years ago. An official has no business overruling proper medical clearance. |
Rookie Location: Columbus Registered: December 14, 2004 Posts: 84 | SlvrHwk, you are correct..The key words here are Proper medical clearence..When the form is properly filled out and the issue is NOT contagious..I've seen doctor's note's that say that the issue at hand IS still contagious thus wrestler has a properly filled out sheet but can't wrestle..So again it depends on the issue and how the form was filled out...In most all cases the official will go by the form and most are properly filled out..In that case then NO the official can not over-rule a properly filled out and diagnosed form for a doctor.. Big Mac! |
Rookie Registered: February 10, 2006 Posts: 33 | Eight wrestlers kicked today at a tourney because each had a wart. This could quickly become a joke. |
Rookie Registered: March 21, 2005 Posts: 181 | Predicament Where did this happen? Who were the officials or was it an on-site Dr.? Coach Meyer |
Rookie Registered: February 10, 2006 Posts: 33 | Humboldt. On-site quack (doctor). |