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Hey S-who are you hearing about for the next DB coach? I heard there's an outside shot of Sanders returning.
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Hey S-who are you hearing about for the next DB coach? I heard there's an outside shot of Sanders returning.



Im really not sure but i have a good feeling that Callahan has known since before he started the season and it will be someone from the NFL
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The only thing about this season that has REALLY bothered me was how awful the Blackshirts looked this season. 70 vs. Texas Tech, 45 vs. Kansas State, etc., etc. -- this was supposed to be a defense that was going to carry the team until it got its feet wet with the West Coast offense.

Granted, the offense put the Blackshirts out on the field quite a bit, but I still think Cosgrove did more to dismantle the Nebraska defensive system than Bo Pelini did in building it up to where it was one of the best in the nation.

There need to be some pink slips handed out in the offseason, and Cosgrove and the alleged A.D. should get the first two. Steve Pederson may have worked in the program previously, but running a second-rate Big Easy Conference athletic program is not the same as running the big show in Lincoln. He has proved he is incapable of being in that position at this level and needs to find something more suitable to his "talent" -- assistant SID at Cal Poly-Pomona leaps to mind.



If it wasnt for Pederson we'd be stuck with a 6-5 7-4 season with a bunch of 3/2 star recruits with no hope of getting better
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the reason i dont see Saunders coming in is because Elmo was a temp hire, and that was clear from the get go... and if Saunders was who he wanted why wouldnt he have just kept him?
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"If it wasnt for Pederson we'd be stuck with a 6-5 7-4 season with a bunch of 3/2 star recruits with no hope of getting better"

Gee...6-5 or 7-4 would have us in a bowl game and continue the string of winning seasons. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be "stuck" with that than a streak-busting 5-6.


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Let's face the FACTS...Callahan was hired by Steve Pederson AFTER being turned down by ALL of the top coaching candidates. He was probably not even on the original list of candidates. The search for a new coach was turning into a media circus... so Pederson rummages through the NFL trash heap and finds Callahan. I believe that to Callahan, NU is just another J.O.B.(He didn't have one when Stevie came calling). Nebraska natives and those associated with the program care about and understand the history and tradition of Nebraska football alot more than the transplant coaches and AD that now occupy those positions.

The coaching at NU this year, on both sides of the ball and special teams, was odd and peculiar at best. Offensively, we insisted on running against teams with great rush defenses and threw every down on teams that we could have run at-will on. That was assuming that the play was brought in from the sidelines without incurring a delay-of-game penalty of forcing us to burn all of our time-outs early in the half. Defensively, we took last years squad(a proud gruop who would have walked through walls for their coach) and turned them into a second-rate unit with schemes that didn't work nor did they believe in. Special teams were atrocious...extra points and short field goals became high drama plays and our punt return specialist averages 3 yards per attempt????? I don't understand how a coach can be so conservative with his punt receiving team(our only objective is to catch the ball), but yet be willing to pass the ball 50 times on offense with a converted option QB???

GREAT coaches all have one thing in common...ATTENTION TO DETAIL. They are meticulous in their preparation of ALL phases of the game. The most disturbing part of the season and the new coaching staff is I didn't see ANY ATTENTION TO DETAIL in any phase of the game.

What I saw this year were coaches who didn't prepare their team for battle. They didn't take the talent(which ther was plenty of) they had and put the players in a position to be successful. Were we the most talented goup of players....no. Did we have the talent to be better than 5-6...absolutely.
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How much will this season actually cost Nebraska??? Let's see, the premium paid to get Callahan here as a head coach, the loss of television revenues and the loss of a bowl game revenues. Those are numbers which can be quantified. The numbers which can't be determined are the loss or cutback of financial backing by supporters, the loss of potential recruits who were considering but are now looking elsewhere and the loss of revenues to retailers, travel agents and the rest of the financial picture in Nebraska. Also, anyone who watched the game on TV or attended the Colorado game could see the utter frustration by fans. How will that affect the team next year and after. The fans don't play the game, but the fan support of the players and the program are as much a part of the success of Nebraska football as anything.

Does everyone remember last year when we couldn't wait to get Dailey in the ballgame.

Rubiks Cube is entirely correct. Callahan was hired by Pederson after being turned down by a number of coaches. I truly believe that Pederson thought by hiring a nationally known name, his rearend would be saved.

So, Mr. Pederson, was it worth it? First losing season in 40+ years, no Bowl Game in 35+ years, loss of revenues, loss of a "family oriented" Nebraska football team, loss of a dedicated coaching staff who understood what Nebraska football was all about and the total frustration of dedicated Nebraska fans who help pay your salary.

The Nebraska football program so carefully and painstakingly constructed by Bob Devaney and carried on by Tom and Frank is dead.
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"If it wasnt for Pederson we'd be stuck with a 6-5 7-4 season with a bunch of 3/2 star recruits with no hope of getting better"

Gee...6-5 or 7-4 would have us in a bowl game and continue the string of winning seasons. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be "stuck" with that than a streak-busting 5-6.



Look outside the box, for the good of the program in years to come... yeah sure we may have kept the bowl streak but we wouldnt be heading anywhere to get better.... Right now we are at least heading in the right direction getting the top athletes in the nation here
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Let's face the FACTS...Callahan was hired by Steve Pederson AFTER being turned down by ALL of the top coaching candidates. He was probably not even on the original list of candidates. The search for a new coach was turning into a media circus... so Pederson rummages through the NFL trash heap and finds Callahan. I believe that to Callahan, NU is just another J.O.B.(He didn't have one when Stevie came calling). Nebraska natives and those associated with the program care about and understand the history and tradition of Nebraska football alot more than the transplant coaches and AD that now occupy those positions.

The coaching at NU this year, on both sides of the ball and special teams, was odd and peculiar at best. Offensively, we insisted on running against teams with great rush defenses and threw every down on teams that we could have run at-will on. That was assuming that the play was brought in from the sidelines without incurring a delay-of-game penalty of forcing us to burn all of our time-outs early in the half. Defensively, we took last years squad(a proud gruop who would have walked through walls for their coach) and turned them into a second-rate unit with schemes that didn't work nor did they believe in. Special teams were atrocious...extra points and short field goals became high drama plays and our punt return specialist averages 3 yards per attempt????? I don't understand how a coach can be so conservative with his punt receiving team(our only objective is to catch the ball), but yet be willing to pass the ball 50 times on offense with a converted option QB???

GREAT coaches all have one thing in common...ATTENTION TO DETAIL. They are meticulous in their preparation of ALL phases of the game. The most disturbing part of the season and the new coaching staff is I didn't see ANY ATTENTION TO DETAIL in any phase of the game.

What I saw this year were coaches who didn't prepare their team for battle. They didn't take the talent(which ther was plenty of) they had and put the players in a position to be successful. Were we the most talented goup of players....no. Did we have the talent to be better than 5-6...absolutely.




actually Callahan was available after pederson was turned down from all the hires... and my guess if he would have been available earlier he would have been pedersons first choice...

and also its funny you talk about attention to detail cuz Charlie McBride was quoted saying he's never talked football with a that pays more attention to detail that Coach Callahan... Maybe it was Monte Kiffin, eh well it was one of them...

and if i have to explain this one more time im going to be freakin sick....

Yes we had better talent that a 5-6 team but when you take into account that every player on the team was a freshman to the system we actually had worse than 5-6 talent... we had 80 players with less than 3 months all together to learn an offense that couldnt be more complicated and different from the one they already know
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How much will this season actually cost Nebraska??? Let's see, the premium paid to get Callahan here as a head coach, the loss of television revenues and the loss of a bowl game revenues. Those are numbers which can be quantified. The numbers which can't be determined are the loss or cutback of financial backing by supporters, the loss of potential recruits who were considering but are now looking elsewhere and the loss of revenues to retailers, travel agents and the rest of the financial picture in Nebraska. Also, anyone who watched the game on TV or attended the Colorado game could see the utter frustration by fans. How will that affect the team next year and after. The fans don't play the game, but the fan support of the players and the program are as much a part of the success of Nebraska football as anything.

Does everyone remember last year when we couldn't wait to get Dailey in the ballgame.

Rubiks Cube is entirely correct. Callahan was hired by Pederson after being turned down by a number of coaches. I truly believe that Pederson thought by hiring a nationally known name, his rearend would be saved.

So, Mr. Pederson, was it worth it? First losing season in 40+ years, no Bowl Game in 35+ years, loss of revenues, loss of a "family oriented" Nebraska football team, loss of a dedicated coaching staff who understood what Nebraska football was all about and the total frustration of dedicated Nebraska fans who help pay your salary.

The Nebraska football program so carefully and painstakingly constructed by Bob Devaney and carried on by Tom and Frank is dead.




Callahan was hired as soon as he was available, stop making it sound like he was the 6th guy on the list...

Yes the program built by Bob and Tom is dead, but you are making the mistake by saying Callahan killed it, It was the lazy recruiting by Frank and his off the field antics that killed it... Bill Callahan is just here to build a new one

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Hey Shane send me an email
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"The Nebraska football program so carefully and painstakingly constructed by Bob Devaney and carried on by Tom and Frank is dead."

Let's try, the tradition started by Bob and carried on by Tom. This program was on the skids through Solich's tenure. His first season in '98 broke the string of seasons with less than four losses and the K-state streak. His play calling at Texas cost us a BCS shot in 99. Play calling again cost us at OU and K-State in 00. Do we need we mention the Colorado meltdown in 01? The talent gap with the upper echelon teams was already becoming obvious. Don't even get me started on 02. And in 03 the only good teams we played cleaned our clocks.
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Why exactly was Callahan available?? Because he got his butt fired one year after playing in the Superbowl. How many other GREAT coaches were fired one year removed from playing in the Superbowl??? NONE In 2002, he inherited a team that won the AFC WEST in 2001(lost in the playoffs to eventual Superbowl champs Patriots). This was his FIRST experience as a head coach at any level. Callahan then proceeded to go 4-12 in 2003 and managed to kill a 3-4 year run of AFC Champioinships by refering to his team as the "Dumbest team in America". Not a very pretty resume. Looks to me like da ja vue all over again. I don't understand why people believe Callahan can build anything...his short history as a head coach has shown his real strength is at tearing teams down.
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He didn't tear the Raiders down so much as they imploded on themselves. There was an open sense of hostility between the players and coaches, and with Grandma Al Davis' quirky way of doing things it became one of those situations where NO coach would have been able to avoid going from the Super Bowl to the basement in one season.

Oh, and by the way, looking at what the Raiders have done this season...it appears Callahan wasn't the problem in O-Town.


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Why exactly was Callahan available?? Because he got his butt fired one year after playing in the Superbowl. How many other GREAT coaches were fired one year removed from playing in the Superbowl??? NONE In 2002, he inherited a team that won the AFC WEST in 2001(lost in the playoffs to eventual Superbowl champs Patriots). This was his FIRST experience as a head coach at any level. Callahan then proceeded to go 4-12 in 2003 and managed to kill a 3-4 year run of AFC Champioinships by refering to his team as the "Dumbest team in America". Not a very pretty resume. Looks to me like da ja vue all over again. I don't understand why people believe Callahan can build anything...his short history as a head coach has shown his real strength is at tearing teams down.



Callahan took a team to the super bowl and then the year after went 4-12 due to 40% of his starters falling to injury at one point and time in the season and a very old team to begin with... (which is why he had problems with Tim Brown because he told him he was too old)... The patriots would have went 4-12 last year with 40% of their starters off... With the salary cap you dont understand how huge that is...

and his history as a head coach and offensive coordinator shows he is an offensive genius and is very straight forward with his players... When he has a list a mile long of good words from previous job associates i dont understand how his resume isnt appealing
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Injuries are part of the game and good coaches don't get fired after one year because of them. Callahans record as a head coach (3yrs)speaks for itself...he INHERITED a team that went to the Superbowl and the next year they go 4-12. He then takes over a 10-3 Husker team, with many returning starters, and they go 5-6. THAT IS HIS RECORD. I don't know how you can put enough lipstick on this pig to make it look better? Oh, and by the way, OFFENSIVE GENIUSES don't take fragile inexperienced freshmen QB's with no game experience, who only get 10% of the snaps in practice, burn his redshirt, and put them in a 35-7 game, on the road, and ask them to throw deep down the middle. OFFENSIVE GENIUSES don't take converted option QB's , put them in a new passing offense, and ask them to throw 40-50 times a game(especially after he has repeatedly demonstrated he doesn't have the skills). I think your mile long??? list of good words from past associates got alot shorter after Bill's third year as a head coach...I believe he is way too much of a GENUIS for this program.
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Hey Cube!
Lighten up! You've made it clear you don't like Callahan! Well guess what, there's nothig you can do to getrid of him, and there's nothing you can do to convince anyonie how bad he is. People have already taken sides on whether or not they like him, and your constant rants aren't going to change that! Did you trick or treat at his house on Halloween and didn't get enough candy? GET OVER IT ALREADY!
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The coaches kept saying that they didn't lose the players.

I think after Benard Thomas's comments it is obvious that they did. The coaches' repeated assurances of 'help is on the way', 'we need more talent' etc, caused them to lose the players they had.

Everyone wanted Dailey last year, but they wanted him in the option. Not this fling the ball three times and out stuff that is called modern football.

I would have liked to see this team under Frank Solich and Bo Pelini for one more year. What could it have hurt? 7 and 7 again? better than 5-6.

The great thing about NU football has been that we were different. We were Nebraska, win or lose. We won with players who were never on anybodies list of greats, but made them great in our system. We made some changes and brought some fire and were well on our way. Now we are like everyone else.

If Frank's personall problems were what screwed it up, then I guess it had to be. But if it was just STevie trying to be the saviour then I call BS.

Tom Osborne said it best back in 90's. We don't need to play offense like Florida St. and Miami. We need to play defense like them. We did and we won. We brought that philosophy back last season.

Look at the Patriots. They have won year after year based on defense and a ground game. Tom Brady doesn't set too many records, in fact, he is barely proficient. Trust me, I have him on my fantasy team.

I can only hope that Catfish HUNTER and the rest of D staff get their act together. Because if they don't, we will be just like TEXASSSS, all the talent in the world, but no championship because they couldn't bring them together.

Talent doesn't win championships. Motivation, chemistry, role playing and playing for each other win championships.

The most common thing around is talented people who are unsuccessful.
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I almost forgot.
Last year, I predicted we would be like NOtre Dame when they switched O's.
If our defense could carry us, we might have a good season. ND's offense struggled, but their D carried them to a 10-3 season.

Well our D...'nuff said.' It wasn't the talent. It was scheme, coaching and loss of players.

A few games, the offense cost the D, Like Tex. Tech, how many times can they stop a team from 20 yards out. That wasn't the D's fault.

But, eventually we lost the players completely and so on and so on.
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Injuries are part of the game and good coaches don't get fired after one year because of them. Callahans record as a head coach (3yrs)speaks for itself...he INHERITED a team that went to the Superbowl and the next year they go 4-12. He then takes over a 10-3 Husker team, with many returning starters, and they go 5-6. THAT IS HIS RECORD. I don't know how you can put enough lipstick on this pig to make it look better? Oh, and by the way, OFFENSIVE GENIUSES don't take fragile inexperienced freshmen QB's with no game experience, who only get 10% of the snaps in practice, burn his redshirt, and put them in a 35-7 game, on the road, and ask them to throw deep down the middle. OFFENSIVE GENIUSES don't take converted option QB's , put them in a new passing offense, and ask them to throw 40-50 times a game(especially after he has repeatedly demonstrated he doesn't have the skills). I think your mile long??? list of good words from past associates got alot shorter after Bill's third year as a head coach...I believe he is way too much of a GENUIS for this program.



Lol how funny you should mention he inherited a team to go to the superbowl... So he had nothing to do with the superbowls eason but you are going to blame him when he inherited franks players? pessimist

and This offense is all he knows, he doesnt know anything else he's not an offensive encyclopedia... yes he's an offensive genius, but he doesnt know the option offense
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